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Rordan D'Kherr
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Posted - 2013.01.21 19:26:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:It's not the fair fights people are worried about (although there's no denying that many people feel if you fight fair you're doing it wrong).
The most significant objection to a system of consensual pvp is that it represents a move away from non-consensual pvp, which is a cornerstone of this game.
Pretty much this.
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Rordan D'Kherr
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Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.21 20:20:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:
Can't your ship can't be prepared for PVE/ Industry and PVP. Must be those darn broken game mechanics again.
Aye. Point is: industry/trading gameplay is brutal in EvE: "you don't like my prices? Then GTFO and buy somewhere else"
"What? you made wrong market investiments and lost your money? Train your skill more and learn to platy, nobody will cuddle you"It's in no way consensual.This is fine, and accepted by everyone. But, for some odd reason, when it comes to piracy, wars, military aggressions and so on the same brutality is not accepted and everything is suposed to be fair and gentle. Like: - "Pardon me, Sir, I'd like to stick a Nova Torpedo in your ass. Would you be so nice to consent to this?" - "Of course my noble friends, only give me 30 minutes to fit the proper modules on my ship and let's do it in a safe, private place where nobody will bother us"
Made my day 
But true though.
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Rordan D'Kherr
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Posted - 2013.01.22 00:28:00 -
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FourierTransformer wrote:Where was all this fear mongering when people used cans to duel on the Jita undock pre-crimewatch?
Maybe people have realized where all the pvp went to. And now that they know CCP is supporting hisec in order to have "pvp light", they're plain ... confused.
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:26:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Warp Planet6 wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:How do you use current mechanics to allow 2 parties to engage in a limited conflict similar to what the duel system will allow? Move lowsec, warp planet 6 and fight like a boss. That doesn't provide any of the benefits of the duel system. Or the safety; it merely removes the risk that is the hallmark of Eve Online. Curious that, no? I don't want to play WoW in Space. I don't want to play Aeon in Space. You guys want that pussification in the way you play, leave. I'll happily hold the door for you (and no, I don't want your tainted stuffs).
I think that is pretty much the issue here.
Safe pvp light, out of the (sand-)box, a happy place for "pvp" next to the mission hub or favorite belt. No need to go to the risky spaces (because concord protection is good hmmkay?).
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.22 11:01:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:
What puzzle me more is the fact that if you run a 20-men mining op, wiping wwhole belts and leaving no margin for a solo miner this is perfectly fine, nobody argue about numbers and fairness. Nobody cries or think they should scale down their numbers or be policied by some game mechanics nor someone call them "******* grieffers"
Or when you use a freighter to move massive goods on the market bumping the prices and ******* the profit of a someone that can rely only on iteron mark II. This is accepted. Why don't cry about this too? What about adding some game mechanics to atificially limit this and make things "fair"? Would you folks be happy?
Maybe hisec carebears are more hardcore or in line with the game intension than hisec "pvp'ers". It's kinda weird, you are right.
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